Although Ellen didn’t divulge what “tough” times they’ve seen each other through, the Emmy winner was in the middle of a dispute with her staff during Kris’s interview. In July 2020, several of The Ellen DeGeneres Show’s employees claimed Ellen provided a “toxic workplace” that became worse during the COVID-19 pandemic, per Variety.

The show’s staff allegedly displayed “a spectrum of racist behavior” that included a producer allegedly mistaking two Black staffers with what they perceived as similar hairstyles.