So, what’s on the matriarch’s playlist? “Kris will forever be like a Luther Vandross, old-school R&B kind of girl,” Kim revealed. “Anita Baker—that’s her vibe.”

As for what Kim and her kids—North, 8, Saint, 6, Chicago, 4, and Psalm, 2—are listening to? They can’t escape the catchiness of the hit Disney Encanto song “We Don’t Talk About Bruno.”

“It’s still ‘Bruno.’ It’s driving me insane,” she joked. “Don’t get me started. I wish we would stop singing about Bruno, too.”

Check out her full interview with E! News in the clip above and watch E! News’ The Rundown on Snapchat this Wednesday, April 20, for more from our exclusive with Kim.